Problems with expl3

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Problems with expl3

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d***@gmail.com

2015-09-11 16:14:34 UTC

Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to use moderncv with the default LaTex version installed in this distro which is a standard Slackware 14.1(-current) installation.

LaTex version info is:

pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
kpathsea version 3.5.4
Copyright (C) 1997-2004 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Kpathsea is copyright (C) 1997-2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the pdfeTeX copyright and
the GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the files
named COPYING and the pdfeTeX source.
Primary author of pdfeTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Kpathsea written by Karl Berry and others.

I downloaded moderncv, unzip-ed into /usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex
and run mktexlsr and texhash. This produced the appropriate ls-R file.

running pdflatex on my document, gave an error about several other packages, l3packages, l3names, l3bootstrap and some others. Each time I downloaded the package, unzipped and mktexlsr.

Each time using pdflatex or latex would complain that the *.sty file wasn't found. So, I downloaded the sty file separately and copied into the appropriate package directory. I did this for all of the moderncv dependencies.

I am now stuck on expl3 ... I have expl3.sty copied to l3packages directory however am stuck on this error:

(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3bootstrap.sty

! Package expl3 Error: Required primitives not found.

See the expl3 package documentation for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
...

l.141 }

? X
No pages of output.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to try them. My inclination is that moderncv has been written for LaTex 3? Is there a older version of moderncv for Latex2?

-daniel

Joseph Wright

2015-09-11 19:25:20 UTC

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Post by d***@gmail.com
Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to use moderncv with the default LaTex version installed in this distro which is a standard Slackware 14.1(-current) installation.
pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
kpathsea version 3.5.4
Copyright (C) 1997-2004 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Kpathsea is copyright (C) 1997-2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the pdfeTeX copyright and
the GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the files
named COPYING and the pdfeTeX source.
Primary author of pdfeTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Kpathsea written by Karl Berry and others.
I downloaded moderncv, unzip-ed into /usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex
and run mktexlsr and texhash. This produced the appropriate ls-R file.
running pdflatex on my document, gave an error about several other packages, l3packages, l3names, l3bootstrap and some others. Each time I downloaded the package, unzipped and mktexlsr.
Each time using pdflatex or latex would complain that the *.sty file wasn't found. So, I downloaded the sty file separately and copied into the appropriate package directory. I did this for all of the moderncv dependencies.
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3bootstrap.sty
! Package expl3 Error: Required primitives not found.
See the expl3 package documentation for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
...
l.141 }
? X
No pages of output.
If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to try them. My inclination is that moderncv has been written for LaTex 3? Is there a older version of moderncv for Latex2?
-daniel

You have a *truly ancient* TeX system. As the message says, the
primitives expl3 requires are not available: in particular you won't
have \pdfstrcmp. To use anything using expl3 you will need to install a
newer TeX system (most likely 'vanilla' TeX Live).

Joseph

d***@gmail.com

2015-09-12 00:45:03 UTC

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Post by Joseph Wright

okay, so I removed the previous version and installed Tex Live ...

pdfTeX 3.1415926-2.4-1.40.13 (TeX Live 2012TeX Live 2012/Slackware (SlackBuilds.org))
kpathsea version 6.1.0
Copyright 2012 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and
the Lesser GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the file
named COPYING and the pdfTeX source.
Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Compiled with libpng 1.4.12; using libpng 1.4.12
Compiled with zlib 1.2.8; using zlib 1.2.8
Compiled with poppler version 0.24.3

I get what appears to be the same problem:
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty
! Undefined control sequence.
l.53 \package_check_loaded_expl:

? X
No pages of output.

Joseph Wright

2015-09-12 13:46:21 UTC

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Post by Joseph Wright

okay, so I removed the previous version and installed Tex Live ...
pdfTeX 3.1415926-2.4-1.40.13 (TeX Live 2012TeX Live 2012/Slackware (SlackBuilds.org))
kpathsea version 6.1.0
Copyright 2012 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and
the Lesser GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the file
named COPYING and the pdfTeX source.
Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Compiled with libpng 1.4.12; using libpng 1.4.12
Compiled with zlib 1.2.8; using zlib 1.2.8
Compiled with poppler version 0.24.3
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty
! Undefined control sequence.
? X
No pages of output.

That looks like a 'mismatch' situation: different bits of expl3 with
different versions won't load together. Can you post the full log up to
that message?

Joseph

d***@gmail.com

2015-09-13 03:08:01 UTC

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It doesn't mean much to me, I'll admit. This resume/cv will be my first LaTex venture, other than rendering pre-existing files.

here's the log:

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.4-1.40.13 (TeX Live 2012TeX Live 2012/Slackware (SlackBuilds.org)) (format=pdflatex 2015.9.11) 12 SEP 2015 20:05
entering extended mode
restricted \write18 enabled.
%&-line parsing enabled.
**Documents/Work/Resume-Sep2015.tex
(./Documents/Work/Resume-Sep2015.tex
LaTeX2e <2011/06/27>
Babel <v3.8m> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, ge
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c, armenian, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danis
h, dutch, ukenglish, usenglishmax, esperanto, estonian, ethiopic, farsi, finnis
h, french, friulan, galician, german, ngerman, swissgerman, monogreek, greek, h
ungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada, malayalam, ma
rathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian,
kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, bokmal, nynorsk,
polish, portuguese, romanian, romansh, russian, sanskrit, serbian, serbianc, s
lovak, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukrainian, uppersorbian,
welsh, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/moderncv/moderncv.cls
Document Class: moderncv 2015/07/28 v2.0.0 modern curriculum vitae and letter d
ocument class
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size11.clo
File: size11.clo 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX file (size option)
)
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/etoolbox/etoolbox.sty
Package: etoolbox 2015/08/02 v2.2a e-TeX tools for LaTeX (JAW)

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/etex-pkg/etex.sty
Package: etex 1998/03/26 v2.0 eTeX basic definition package (PEB)
\***@xins=\count79
)
\***@tempcnta=\count80
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ifthen.sty
Package: ifthen 2001/05/26 v1.1c Standard LaTeX ifthen package (DPC)
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/xcolor/xcolor.sty
Package: xcolor 2007/01/21 v2.11 LaTeX color extensions (UK)

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/latexconfig/color.cfg
File: color.cfg 2007/01/18 v1.5 color configuration of teTeX/TeXLive
)
Package xcolor Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 225.

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/pdftex-def/pdftex.def
File: pdftex.def 2011/05/27 v0.06d Graphics/color for pdfTeX

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/infwarerr.sty
Package: infwarerr 2010/04/08 v1.3 Providing info/warning/error messages (HO)
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ltxcmds.sty
Package: ltxcmds 2011/11/09 v1.22 LaTeX kernel commands for general use (HO)
)
\***@gobject=\count81
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/colortbl/colortbl.sty
Package: colortbl 2012/02/13 v1.0a Color table columns (DPC)

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/tools/array.sty
Package: array 2008/09/09 v2.4c Tabular extension package (FMi)
\***@sep=\dimen102
\extrarowheight=\dimen103
\***@list=\toks14
\extratabsurround=\skip41
\***@length=\skip42
)
\everycr=\toks15
\minrowclearance=\skip43
)
\rownum=\count82
Package xcolor Info: Model `cmy' substituted by `cmy0' on input line 1337.
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Package xcolor Info: Model `RGB' extended on input line 1353.
Package xcolor Info: Model `HTML' substituted by `rgb' on input line 1355.
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Package xcolor Info: Model `wave' substituted by `hsb' on input line 1360.
)
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/ifxetex/ifxetex.sty
Package: ifxetex 2008/09/18 v0.4 Provides ifxetex conditional
)
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/oberdiek/ifluatex.sty
Package: ifluatex 2010/03/01 v1.3 Provides the ifluatex switch (HO)
Package ifluatex Info: LuaTeX not detected.
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
Package: fontenc 2005/09/27 v1.99g Standard LaTeX package

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def
File: t1enc.def 2005/09/27 v1.99g Standard LaTeX file
LaTeX Font Info: Redeclaring font encoding T1 on input line 43.
))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/lm/lmodern.sty
Package: lmodern 2009/10/30 v1.6 Latin Modern Fonts
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `operators' in version `normal'
(Font) OT1/cmr/m/n --> OT1/lmr/m/n on input line 22.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `letters' in version `normal'
(Font) OML/cmm/m/it --> OML/lmm/m/it on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `symbols' in version `normal'
(Font) OMS/cmsy/m/n --> OMS/lmsy/m/n on input line 24.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `largesymbols' in version `normal'
(Font) OMX/cmex/m/n --> OMX/lmex/m/n on input line 25.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `operators' in version `bold'
(Font) OT1/cmr/bx/n --> OT1/lmr/bx/n on input line 26.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `letters' in version `bold'
(Font) OML/cmm/b/it --> OML/lmm/b/it on input line 27.
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(Font) OMS/cmsy/b/n --> OMS/lmsy/b/n on input line 28.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `largesymbols' in version `bold'
(Font) OMX/cmex/m/n --> OMX/lmex/m/n on input line 29.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathbf' in version `normal'
(Font) OT1/cmr/bx/n --> OT1/lmr/bx/n on input line 31.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathsf' in version `normal'
(Font) OT1/cmss/m/n --> OT1/lmss/m/n on input line 32.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathit' in version `normal'
(Font) OT1/cmr/m/it --> OT1/lmr/m/it on input line 33.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathtt' in version `normal'
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LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathbf' in version `bold'
(Font) OT1/cmr/bx/n --> OT1/lmr/bx/n on input line 35.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathsf' in version `bold'
(Font) OT1/cmss/bx/n --> OT1/lmss/bx/n on input line 36.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathit' in version `bold'
(Font) OT1/cmr/bx/it --> OT1/lmr/bx/it on input line 37.
LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathtt' in version `bold'
(Font) OT1/cmtt/m/n --> OT1/lmtt/m/n on input line 38.
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/url/url.sty
\Urlmuskip=\muskip10
Package: url 2006/04/12 ver 3.3 Verb mode for urls, etc.
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty
Package: graphicx 1999/02/16 v1.0f Enhanced LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR)

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty
Package: keyval 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC)
\***@toks@=\toks16
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty
Package: graphics 2009/02/05 v1.0o Standard LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR)

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty
Package: trig 1999/03/16 v1.09 sin cos tan (DPC)
)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/latexconfig/graphics.cfg
File: graphics.cfg 2010/04/23 v1.9 graphics configuration of TeX Live
)
Package graphics Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 91.
)
\***@req@height=\dimen104
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)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fancyhdr/fancyhdr.sty
\***@headwidth=\skip44
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)
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/moderncv/tweaklist.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/tools/calc.sty
Package: calc 2007/08/22 v4.3 Infix arithmetic (KKT,FJ)
\***@Acount=\count83
\***@Bcount=\count84
\***@Adimen=\dimen106
\***@Bdimen=\dimen107
\***@Askip=\skip53
\***@Bskip=\skip54
LaTeX Info: Redefining \setlength on input line 76.
LaTeX Info: Redefining \addtolength on input line 77.
\***@Ccount=\count85
\***@Cskip=\skip55
)
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3packages/xparse.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3packages/expl3.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3names.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3bootstrap.sty
Package: l3bootstrap 2012/07/15 v3986 L3 Experimental bootstrap code
)
Package: l3names 2012/07/16 v3990 L3 Namespace for primitives
)
Package: expl3 2012/07/16 v3990 L3 Experimental code bundle wrapper

(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty
Package: l3basics 2012/03/04 v3491 L3 Experimental basic definitions

! Undefined control sequence.
l.53 \package_check_loaded_expl:

? X

Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
2658 strings out of 493488
34023 string characters out of 3146844
88772 words of memory out of 3000000
5953 multiletter control sequences out of 15000+200000
4709 words of font info for 16 fonts, out of 3000000 for 9000
957 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191
48i,0n,45p,808b,39s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,10000p,200000b,50000s
No pages of output.
PDF statistics:
0 PDF objects out of 1000 (max. 8388607)
0 named destinations out of 1000 (max. 500000)
1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 10000 (max. 10000000)

Joseph Wright

2015-09-13 19:17:34 UTC

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Post by d***@gmail.com
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3packages/xparse.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3packages/expl3.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3names.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3bootstrap.sty
Package: l3bootstrap 2012/07/15 v3986 L3 Experimental bootstrap code
)
Package: l3names 2012/07/16 v3990 L3 Namespace for primitives
)
Package: expl3 2012/07/16 v3990 L3 Experimental code bundle wrapper
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty

Here is your issue: you have some files in /usr/share/texmf-dist (likely
part of your disro TeX system) and some in /usr/share/texmf-local
(likely 'local installs'). You need to use a matching set of files: move
the ones in the local tree in the first instance.

Joseph

d***@gmail.com

2015-09-15 03:15:36 UTC

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Post by Joseph Wright

So, I've installed Texlive:

pdfTeX 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.16 (TeX Live 2015)
kpathsea version 6.2.1
Copyright 2015 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and
the Lesser GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the file
named COPYING and the pdfTeX source.
Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Compiled with libpng 1.6.17; using libpng 1.6.17
Compiled with zlib 1.2.8; using zlib 1.2.8
Compiled with xpdf version 3.04

which seems up to date. I can't seem to figure out this package problem:

(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/libraries/pgflibraryplothan
dlers.code.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/modules/pgfmodulematrix.cod
e.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz/librarie
s/tikzlibrarytopaths.code.tex))))
(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/moderncv/moderncvheadi.sty

LaTeX Warning: You have requested package `moderncvheadi',
but the package provides `moderncvheadi'.

) (/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/moderncv/moderncvbodyi.sty

LaTeX Warning: You have requested package `moderncvbodyi',
but the package provides `moderncvbodyi'.

(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/marvosym/umvs.fd)))
(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/moderncv/moderncvcolorgreen.sty)
! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> \makecvtitlenamewidth

l.8 \setlength{\makecvtitlenamewidth}{12cm}

? X
No pages of output.
Transcript written on test.log.

Herbert Schulz

2015-09-15 12:57:23 UTC

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(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/moderncv/moderncvheadi.sty
LaTeX Warning: You have requested package `moderncvheadi',
but the package provides `moderncvheadi'.
) (/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/moderncv/moderncvbodyi.sty
LaTeX Warning: You have requested package `moderncvbodyi',
but the package provides `moderncvbodyi'.

Howdy,

Could you provide a minimal but complete example that shows this
behavior? I particularly wonder what your preamble looks like.

Good Luck,
Herb Schulz

Joseph Wright

2015-09-15 14:13:26 UTC

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(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/marvosym/umvs.fd)))
(/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/moderncv/moderncvcolorgreen.sty)
! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> \makecvtitlenamewidth
l.8 \setlength{\makecvtitlenamewidth}{12cm}
? X
No pages of output.
Transcript written on test.log.

That command is defined in a file called moderncvcompatibility. I'm not
familiar with the class but my guess is you've got a model using an
older version which is using something no longer current.

(Personally I find that CV classes work poorly: getting the design and
content right in the end means doing things yourself, at which point you
are better starting with article.)

Joseph

d***@gmail.com

2015-09-16 01:42:48 UTC

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I think that will be the solution here. I started this as a project to learn LaTex - I'll be starting at a lower level than I anticipated :).

thanks for the help.

-daniel

Herbert Schulz

2015-09-13 14:17:26 UTC

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pdfTeX 3.1415926-2.4-1.40.13 (TeX Live 2012TeX Live 2012/Slackware (SlackBuilds.org))

Howdy,

TeX Live 2012?

Good Luck,
Herb Schulz