No October posts yet?

[David Dalton]

It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

[Holger Schieferdecker]

Post by David Dalton
It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

The latest CTAN Announcement post I can see here is from September 26.

On the website there have been Announcements, so CTAN is not on holiday.
But I can't tell what the problem is.

Holger

[Holger Schieferdecker]

Post by David Dalton
It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium term.
Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides that
they have other important features to work on.

In the meantime the announcements are available online:
https://ctan.org/ctan-ann

Holger

[David Dalton]

Post by Holger Schieferdecker

Post by David Dalton
It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium term.
Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides that
they have other important features to work on.
https://ctan.org/ctan-ann
Holger

OK, thanks.

[Annada Behera]

To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be
up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

Annada

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[1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
[2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

-----Original Message-----
From: David Dalton <***@nfld.com>
Subject: Re: No October posts yet?
Date: 10/10/2024 03:26:47 AM
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex

Post by Holger Schieferdecker

Post by David Dalton
It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium term.
Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides that
they have other important features to work on.
https://ctan.org/ctan-ann
Holger

OK, thanks.

[yeti]

Post by Annada Behera
To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be
up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

It may be easy to register them with Feedbase[3] which would
gate them to NNTP and even allow replies there.

Post by Annada Behera
I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

Alternatively creating comp.text.tex.ctan might be a nice solution too,
while taking a bit<bs><bs><bs>long more patience.

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Post by Annada Behera
[1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
[2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

[3]: <https://feedbase.org/about/>

[Dr Eberhard W Lisse]

I do not agree.

They are low volume, easily identified by subject and there is next to
no discussion in thes news group anyway.

It's a bit of a shame, but it is understandable that this is not a
priority for the CTAN Team any longer, only a few dinosaurs know what
the Usenet is or even access it.

el

Post by Annada Behera
To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to
be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors),
there is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.
I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.
Annada

[Annada Behera]

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <***@lisse.NA>
Reply-To: ***@lisse.NA
Subject: Re: No October posts yet?
Date: 10/10/2024 11:46:19 AM
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex

Post by Dr Eberhard W Lisse
I do not agree.
They are low volume, easily identified by subject and there is next to
no discussion in thes news group anyway.

So what? I think it is preferable to have low high quality (or good)
posts in the newsgroup than a bot spamming update for every package in
CTAN. What purpose does it serve that RSS/Atom doesn't? Anyone interested
in discussing a package update can make a thread.

I also like the idea that a separate newsgroup comp.text.tex.ctan to keep
this newsgroup from getting overrun with the announcements. But then it
is redundant with a feed reader.

Post by Dr Eberhard W Lisse
It's a bit of a shame, but it is understandable that this is not a
priority for the CTAN Team any longer, only a few dinosaurs know what
the Usenet is or even access it.

Agree. It is more work for CTAN team/admin. Better not bother.

Annada

Post by Dr Eberhard W Lisse
To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
 and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to
be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors),
there is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.
I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.
Annada

[Holger Schieferdecker]

Post by Annada Behera
To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
and drowns out the discussions here.

Maybe I could agree if there would be discussions here. But there are
very few discussions. Nowadays they mostly happen on web based forums
like tex.stackexchange.com.

If you don't want to see the CTAN Announcements it should be easy to
filter them.

Post by Annada Behera
For people who really need to be
up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

I don't need to see the announcements for the reasons you mentioned. But
I really appreciate them. I learned about several interesting packages I
would have never noticed otherwise.

Post by Annada Behera
I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

For me it is very convenient to have them both in one place.

Holger

Post by Annada Behera
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[1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
[2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

[Ulrike Fischer]

Post by Annada Behera
To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be
up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

The postings here are not for people who need to be up-to-date.
These people read ctan.announce or something like that. The postings
here are for the "normal" user, the wider (now smaller) audience, so
that they see that development is going on and perhaps check what a
update is doing or what a new package offers.

Post by Annada Behera
I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

The few ctan annoucements do not restrict your right to start an
interesting discussion. But the group is quite low traffic now
compared to what it was years ago. Nowadays you find more people one
sites like tex.stackexchange.