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Footnotesize
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Will
2008-11-13 07:22:24 UTC
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Hi,

how do I find out which font size [in pt] is used and how it is labelled
in my current document? Is there are way to display a table of current
font labels (small, footnotesize, etc.) and corresponding fonts and
fontsizes?

How do I set the footnotesize to a certain font size (in pt (!) or
according to a label)?

Thanks in advance,

Will
Ulrike Fischer
2008-11-13 09:24:48 UTC
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Post by Will
Hi,
how do I find out which font size [in pt] is used
and how it is labelled in my current document?
Only by selecting the different fontsizes and comparing the sizes (or by
looking in sizeXX.clo).
Post by Will
Is there are way to display a table of current
font labels (small, footnotesize, etc.) and corresponding fonts and
fontsizes?
? I don't understand. Where is the problem with "\small a text in small"
etc.?
Post by Will
How do I set the footnotesize to a certain font size (in pt (!) or
according to a label)?
\renewcommand\footnotesize ... . Look in the sizeXX.clo-files how it is
done there.
--
Ulrike Fischer
Will
2008-11-13 09:35:03 UTC
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Dear Ulrike,

thanks for your reply. The problem is that my publisher asks for certain
font sizes (Text = 12pt, 1.5 line spacing, Footnote=11pt, 1.0 line
spacing). I agree that LaTeX takes good care of font sizes, however, it
is not explicit what it actually does. (How big is "small"?)

One more question:
How I find out what spacing is used in footnotes? How do I set the
spacing in footnotes to single line spacing?

Thanks for your help,

Will
Post by Ulrike Fischer
Post by Will
Is there are way to display a table of current
font labels (small, footnotesize, etc.) and corresponding fonts and
fontsizes?
? I don't understand. Where is the problem with "\small a text in small"
etc.?
Ulrike Fischer
2008-11-13 09:55:07 UTC
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Post by Will
Dear Ulrike,
thanks for your reply. The problem is that my publisher asks for certain
font sizes (Text = 12pt, 1.5 line spacing, Footnote=11pt, 1.0 line
spacing). I agree that LaTeX takes good care of font sizes, however, it
is not explicit what it actually does. (How big is "small"?)
LaTeX isn't doing anything. It is the class that sets the fontsizes. In
case of article with [12pt] you find the definition in size12.clo.
\footnotesize e.g. is defined as

\newcommand\footnotesize{%
\@setfontsize\footnotesize\@xpt\@xiipt
\abovedisplayskip 10\p@ \@plus2\p@ \@minus5\p@
\abovedisplayshortskip \z@ \@plus3\p@
\belowdisplayshortskip 6\p@ \@plus3\p@ \@minus3\p@
\def\@listi{\leftmargin\leftmargini
\topsep 6\p@ \@plus2\p@ \@minus2\p@
\parsep 3\p@ \@plus2\p@ \@minus\p@
\itemsep \parsep}%
\belowdisplayskip \abovedisplayskip
}

where \@setfontsize\footnotesize\@xpt\@xiipt means 10pt fontsize with
12pt (12=xii in roman) leading.

\small is 11pt so to get 11pt footnotes the simpliest ist to say
\let\footnotesize\small.
Post by Will
How I find out what spacing is used in footnotes? How do I set the
spacing in footnotes to single line spacing?
Use the setspace package and \onehalfspacing. It will take care to set
footnotes in single spacing.

And please learn to quote. Don't top post.
--
Ulrike Fischer
Herbert Schulz
2008-11-13 13:58:03 UTC
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Post by Will
Dear Ulrike,
thanks for your reply. The problem is that my publisher asks for certain
font sizes (Text = 12pt, 1.5 line spacing, Footnote=11pt, 1.0 line
spacing). I agree that LaTeX takes good care of font sizes, however, it
is not explicit what it actually does. (How big is "small"?)
How I find out what spacing is used in footnotes? How do I set the
spacing in footnotes to single line spacing?
Thanks for your help,
Will
Howdy,

Look in the .clo files for the given class. You can pick u the one with
the 12 in its name for 12pt base font size.

Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
Will
2008-11-14 17:06:39 UTC
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Hi,

changing the footnote size with \let\footnotesize\small
does not only change font size of the footnotes, but also of other text
which I want to print in footnotesize which is, however, not necessarily
in the footnotes (e.g. in tables).

How do I specifically control the fontsize of the text which is in the
footnotes, i.e. in my case at the bottom of the page, not in other parts
of the document.

Thanks in advance,

Will
Robin Fairbairns
2008-11-14 17:34:43 UTC
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Post by Will
changing the footnote size with \let\footnotesize\small
does not only change font size of the footnotes, but also of other text
which I want to print in footnotesize which is, however, not necessarily
in the footnotes (e.g. in tables).
How do I specifically control the fontsize of the text which is in the
footnotes, i.e. in my case at the bottom of the page, not in other parts
of the document.
you have either to rewrite the latex footnote routines, or to use
\footnotesize.

the footmisc package provides a way of rewriting the footnote routines
(\footnotelayout) which you may care to use -- see the package docs.

otherwise, if you want to use (what was) \footnotesize, elsewhere,
have, in your document:

\let\myitsybitsyfontsize\footnotesize
% as well as your original:
\let\footnotesize\small

and use \myitsybitsyfontsize in place of \footnotesize everywhere you
had it explicitly.

a better name for this may occur to you...
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
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