Discussion:
fontspec: no ligatures with Times New Roman
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Stephan Hennig
2010-11-11 13:18:28 UTC
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Hi,

compiling the attached document with either lualatex or xelatex there
are no ligatures when using Windows XP's Times New Roman font. For
other fonts like Palatino Linotype ligatures work. Doesn't Times New
Roman provide ligatures or is this a bug?

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\defaultfontfeatures{Ligatures=TeX}
\setmainfont{Times New Roman}
%\setmainfont{Palatino Linotype}
%\setmainfont{Latin Modern Roman}
\begin{document}
\begin{minipage}{10cm}
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ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ\\
1234567890 äöüÄÖÜßéè ff fi fl ffi ffl ij
\end{minipage}
\end{document}
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Will Robertson
2010-11-11 13:21:41 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
compiling the attached document with either lualatex or xelatex there
are no ligatures when using Windows XP's Times New Roman font.  For
other fonts like Palatino Linotype ligatures work.  Doesn't Times New
Roman provide ligatures?
No, it does not. (IIRC.)
But see the FeatureFile section of the fontspec documentation for
LuaLaTeX use for a good way around this problem.

Will
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-11 14:11:15 UTC
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Post by Will Robertson
Doesn't Times New Roman provide ligatures?
No, it does not. (IIRC.)
Ok.
Post by Will Robertson
But see the FeatureFile section of the fontspec documentation for
LuaLaTeX use for a good way around this problem.
Even though I don't plan to use Times New Roman anyway, you made me
curious. :) Playing with FeatureFile and RawFeature I still cannot get
fi and fl ligatures to work. (I'm not good at checking OTF features,
but I can see two glyphs 'fi' and 'fl' for Times New Roman in Window's
character map application that I would like to access now.) I'm not
sure if Ligatures=TeX is still required with a custom feature file, but
omitting that option doesn't seem to help. Any more hint?

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig


#times.feat
languagesystem DFLT dflt;
languagesystem latn dflt;
# Ligatures
feature shlig {
sub \f \i by \fi;
sub \f \l by \fl;
} shlig;


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Ligatures=TeX
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Khaled Hosny
2010-11-11 15:06:47 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
Post by Will Robertson
Doesn't Times New Roman provide ligatures?
No, it does not. (IIRC.)
Ok.
Post by Will Robertson
But see the FeatureFile section of the fontspec documentation for
LuaLaTeX use for a good way around this problem.
Even though I don't plan to use Times New Roman anyway, you made me
curious. :)  Playing with FeatureFile and RawFeature I still cannot get
fi and fl ligatures to work.  (I'm not good at checking OTF features,
but I can see two glyphs 'fi' and 'fl' for Times New Roman in Window's
character map application that I would like to access now.)  I'm not
sure if Ligatures=TeX is still required with a custom feature file, but
omitting that option doesn't seem to help.  Any more hint?
Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
#times.feat
languagesystem DFLT dflt;
languagesystem latn dflt;
# Ligatures
feature shlig {
sub \f \i by \fi;
sub \f \l by \fl;
} shlig;
%times.tex
\listfiles
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont[
     FeatureFile=times.feat,
     RawFeature=shlig,
It should be +shlig to actually activate the feature. If you used
standard feature tag, 'liga' for example, you will not even need this.
Post by Stephan Hennig
     Ligatures=TeX
   ]{Times New Roman}
\begin{document}
\begin{minipage}{10cm}
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz\\
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ\\
1234567890 ff fi fl ffi ffl ij
\end{minipage}
\end{document}
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-11 15:23:11 UTC
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Post by Khaled Hosny
Post by Stephan Hennig
\setmainfont[
FeatureFile=times.feat,
RawFeature=shlig,
It should be +shlig to actually activate the feature. If you used
standard feature tag, 'liga' for example, you will not even need this.
Tried both, RawFeature=+shlig, and renaming shlig to liga, omitting
RawFeature. But still no ligatures.

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Khaled Hosny
2010-11-11 15:50:42 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
Post by Khaled Hosny
Post by Stephan Hennig
\setmainfont[
      FeatureFile=times.feat,
      RawFeature=shlig,
It should be +shlig to actually activate the feature. If you used
standard feature tag, 'liga' for example, you will not even need this.
Tried both, RawFeature=+shlig, and renaming shlig to liga, omitting
RawFeature.  But still no ligatures.
Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Two issues: the feature file should have a .fea extension (I have to
investigate that) and feature tags should be 4 chars only (may be we
should return error if the feature file is invalid). You may also want
to delete the cached times* files (currently we don't invalidate the
cache if the feature file were changed).
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-11 16:39:11 UTC
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Post by Khaled Hosny
Two issues: the feature file should have a .fea extension (I have to
investigate that) and feature tags should be 4 chars only (may be we
should return error if the feature file is invalid). You may also want
to delete the cached times* files (currently we don't invalidate the
cache if the feature file were changed).
Adapting the feature file didn't suffice. But after deleting the font
cache fi and fl ligatures eventually appeared. Thanks!

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-11 17:41:15 UTC
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Hi,

attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption (one of the
strongest monographic, monoalphabetic substitution ciphers known) to
modern TeX engines.

Have fun,
Stephan Hennig


#rot13.fea
languagesystem DFLT dflt;
languagesystem latn dflt;
# Ligatures
feature ro13 {
sub \a by \n;
sub \b by \o;
sub \c by \p;
sub \d by \q;
sub \e by \r;
sub \f by \s;
sub \g by \t;
sub \h by \u;
sub \i by \v;
sub \j by \w;
sub \k by \x;
sub \l by \y;
sub \m by \z;
sub \n by \a;
sub \o by \b;
sub \p by \c;
sub \q by \d;
sub \r by \e;
sub \s by \f;
sub \t by \g;
sub \u by \h;
sub \v by \i;
sub \w by \j;
sub \x by \k;
sub \y by \l;
sub \z by \m;
} ro13;


\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\defaultfontfeatures{FeatureFile=rot13.fea, RawFeature=+ro13}
\setmainfont{Latin Modern Roman}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\begin{document}
\lipsum[1]
\end{document}
Donald Arseneau
2010-11-11 18:34:24 UTC
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attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption (one of the strongest
:-)
--
Donald Arseneau ***@triumf.ca
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-11 21:27:56 UTC
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attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption (one of the strongest
:-)
I couldn't actually find any stronger cipher in that class. :-)

By placing several substitution rules in different features and
switching RawFeature within the document (or better within a paragraph),
one isn't actually bound to monoalphabetic ciphers.

More interesting, however, were a way to apply digraph substitution. In
the feature file specification there are

<glyph sequence> by <glyph> and
<glyph> by <glyph sequence>

rules, but no

<glyph sequence> by <glyph sequence>

unfortunately.


Another thing I haven't got to work is removing single glyphs. There is
a special glyph name .notdef, but a rule like

sub x by .notdef;

seems to invalidate the feature file, rather that omitting the glyph in
the output. Replacing by a space works, as in

sub x by space;

but that's not what I'm really after. Any ideas?

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Khaled Hosny
2010-11-11 21:57:13 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption (one of the strongest
:-)
I couldn't actually find any stronger cipher in that class. :-)
By placing several substitution rules in different features and
switching RawFeature within the document (or better within a paragraph),
one isn't actually bound to monoalphabetic ciphers.
More interesting, however, were a way to apply digraph substitution.  In
the feature file specification there are
   <glyph sequence>   by   <glyph>           and
   <glyph>   by   <glyph sequence>
rules, but no
   <glyph sequence>   by   <glyph sequence>
unfortunately.
OpenType does not support multiple to multiple substitution (for good
reason, in GUI apps where you need to select and copy text, allowing
such feature means the application will lose the character->glyph
mapping).
Post by Stephan Hennig
Another thing I haven't got to work is removing single glyphs.  There is
a special glyph name .notdef, but a rule like
   sub x by .notdef;
sub \x by \.notdef; works for me, x's are not shown.

Regards,
Khaled
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-12 10:02:05 UTC
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Post by Khaled Hosny
OpenType does not support multiple to multiple substitution (for good
reason, in GUI apps where you need to select and copy text, allowing
such feature means the application will lose the character->glyph
mapping).
Does that mean font feature rules are not 'executed' at the typesetting
stage (LuaTeX), but only at the rendering stage (viewer application)?
That is, feature files containing substitution rules such as

sub x by y;

are embedded alongside fonts and the information about the original x'es
is still there in the PDF somewhere?
Post by Khaled Hosny
Post by Stephan Hennig
Another thing I haven't got to work is removing single glyphs. There is
a special glyph name .notdef, but a rule like
sub x by .notdef;
sub \x by \.notdef; works for me, x's are not shown.
Thanks!

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Khaled Hosny
2010-11-12 11:30:42 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
Post by Khaled Hosny
OpenType does not support multiple to multiple substitution (for good
reason, in GUI apps where you need to select and copy text, allowing
such feature means the application will lose the character->glyph
mapping).
Does that mean font feature rules are not 'executed' at the typesetting
stage (LuaTeX), but only at the rendering stage (viewer application)?
That is, feature files containing substitution rules such as
   sub x by y;
are embedded alongside fonts and the information about the original x'es
is still there in the PDF somewhere?
No, they are applied at typesetting stage, but OpenType is a general
purpose standard that is written an maintained by companies that are
mainly interested in interactive use (in GUI applications) where
editing operations depend on character->glyph mapping. It is not
impossible to support multiple to multiple substitution and keep the
mapping, but it needs special precautions and they seem not to find it
worth the trouble (Graphite does support multiple to multiple
substitution, glyph insertion and deletion, all not supported by
OpenType for the same reasons, but nobody is making Graphite fonts).

Regards,
Khaled
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-12 14:18:15 UTC
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Post by Khaled Hosny
No, they are applied at typesetting stage, but OpenType is a general
purpose standard that is written an maintained by companies that are
mainly interested in interactive use (in GUI applications) where
editing operations depend on character->glyph mapping.
[...]
but nobody is making Graphite fonts).
Thanks for the explanation!

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Donald Arseneau
2010-11-12 02:29:54 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption (one of the strongest
:-)
I couldn't actually find any stronger cipher in that class. :-)
Surely double-ROT13 is twice as strong!


Donald Arseneau ***@triumf.ca

This message is double-rot13 encoded. If you cannot read it, upgrade your
email client. Unauthorized decryption of this message for the purposes
of copyright violation is a criminal offense in the United States of America
under the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA.
Robin Fairbairns
2010-11-12 10:11:12 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption (one of the
[...]
:-)
indeed, i obviously need to refer to this in the faq.

stephan, will you submit this invaluable package to ctan?
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-12 10:21:12 UTC
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Post by Robin Fairbairns
stephan, will you submit this invaluable package to ctan?
Sure. I'm currently trying to extend the feature file to encrypt small
caps, too, and include a double ROT13 implementation as Donald suggested.

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Heiko Oberdiek
2010-11-12 15:08:34 UTC
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Post by Robin Fairbairns
stephan, will you submit this invaluable package to ctan?
Sure. I'm currently trying to extend the feature file to encrypt small
caps, too, and include a double ROT13 implementation as Donald suggested.
And triple ROT13 for stronger encryption? ;-)
--
Heiko Oberdiek
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-12 15:22:12 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
Sure. I'm currently trying to extend the feature file to encrypt small
caps, too, and include a double ROT13 implementation as Donald suggested.
And triple ROT13 for stronger encryption? ;-)
I'll let the door open for advanced users.

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Heiko Oberdiek
2010-11-12 17:36:44 UTC
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Post by Stephan Hennig
attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption (one of the
[...]
:-)
indeed, i obviously need to refer to this in the faq.
stephan, will you submit this invaluable package to ctan?
That's unfair, that will not work for old TeX engines. ;-)

Therefore I have written such a package (iniTeX, plain TeX, LaTeX):
http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~oberdiek/tmp/rotchiffre.pdf
(See section "Installation", how to unpack the package).
It's a temporary location until the next update of my bundle,
then it also goes to CTAN.)
--
Heiko Oberdiek
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-12 20:41:50 UTC
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Post by Robin Fairbairns
stephan, will you submit this invaluable package to ctan?
That's unfair, that will not work for old TeX engines. ;-)
You are too fast. I'm still trying to trick Adobe and achieve digraph
substitution by contextual substitution rules (but haven't had much luck
so far). The name of my package will depend on whether this is
successful or not: OTF-ROT13 or OTF-crypt.

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Khaled Hosny
2010-11-12 20:58:13 UTC
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Post by Heiko Oberdiek
Post by Robin Fairbairns
stephan, will you submit this invaluable package to ctan?
That's unfair, that will not work for old TeX engines. ;-)
You are too fast.  I'm still trying to trick Adobe and achieve digraph
substitution by contextual substitution rules (but haven't had much luck
so far).
Note that the current feature file implementation in luatex is derived
from older version of FontForge that predates contextual support by
Adobe, FontForge supported its own extensions (not sure if it included
contextual support) but later versions switched to newer Adobe spec
and the old FontForge documentation is now gone.
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-13 13:02:51 UTC
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Note that the current feature file implementation in luatex is derived
from older version of FontForge that predates contextual support by
Adobe, FontForge supported its own extensions (not sure if it included
contextual support) but later versions switched to newer Adobe spec
Are there any plans for LuaTeX to keep up with FontForge development?

What about XeTeX? Does that support contextual substitution?

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-13 14:02:18 UTC
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What about XeTeX? Does that support contextual substitution?
I just noticed the fontspec manual introduces font feature files as a
LuaTeX-only feature.

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig
Stephan Hennig
2010-11-11 20:27:15 UTC
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attached is a feature file that brings ROT13 encryption
Oops, that feature file encrypts lower-case letters only. Here's a full
implementation of the ROT13 cipher. (After reading a bit in the feature
file specification, the feature file got even shorter.)

Have fun,
Stephan Hennig

#rot13.fea
languagesystem DFLT dflt;
languagesystem latn dflt;
# ROT13 cipher
feature ro13 {
sub [a-m] by [n-z];
sub [n-z] by [a-m];
sub [A-M] by [N-Z];
sub [N-Z] by [A-M];
} ro13;
m***@ovgu.de
2017-04-29 00:11:22 UTC
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#rot13.fea
languagesystem DFLT dflt;
languagesystem latn dflt;
# ROT13 cipher
feature ro13 {
sub [a-m] by [n-z];
sub [n-z] by [a-m];
sub [A-M] by [N-Z];
sub [N-Z] by [A-M];
} ro13;
Can anyone convert this to the new, post-2016 notation of the fontspec package as shown in Figure 1 on page 60 of the fontspec manual?
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